Overeating

What is overeating anyway; eating more than we burn / use / need ...

So what causes the body to do this? Is it a natural desire for more? a moral greed? not likely. Many of us would rather not have the craving, a physical need to consume, it is not a desire induced by food pushers, it is much stronger, and unrelenting. It does not seem, in my case to be induced by emotions, life around me, what I am doing... well, I never get the strong urge in some situations, but then exhaustion sets in, and the urges arise. 

Ok, so some cravings are chemical, taste driven, hyper-palatable food, but what about for cranberries - frozen - raw, not hyper-palatable, some people could not, would not eat them, well maybe one, to taste. How about frozen smokyes? (just for grammarians, that is the way the package spelled it. Some of my mistakes are intentional). Or how about raw-to pan fried potatoes in bacon/coconut/ or canola oil? Or butter, but it is a banned substance from this house. Or dried cranberries, (the wife's evening munching irritation). Those are not hyper-palatable, some would say not even palatable.

Portion size is not the issue, it is those damn cravings. It is like a natural urge that other people do not have. Is it a natural urge? What would be the properties that would separate a physical desire from a mental induce desire?  A quick search suggests hormones are the deciding factor, but which one and how does that help?

The only paper that offers a solution is all about dissociation of mind and body.

"And so we came forth and once again beheld the stars."    - Dante , but he's the "I think therefore I am" guy.

enough. I think I will go shoot a few

HAES, No thanks

http://michaelprager.com/Fed-Up-movie-fat-shaming-fat-inducing-bullying
http://weightmaven.org/2014/05/12/quote-of-the-day-222/

It appears that some of  HAES do not look at realty as it is, but see their version of reality, through pink glasses.

My belief system does not require that you believe as I do. You can believe any crap you want. The reality is that humans cannot be obese and remain healthy to old age. If you choose to not look at reality, it is totally up to you. Society recognizes that obesity is not healthy but, it knows little or nothing about the causes of overeating, which is the ultimate cause of obesity, using the causal chain.

Much of society is obesogenic, foodies ... drug pushing bunch of evil bastards. Much of the public refuses to accept food addiction - sugar, chemicals, hormones, agricultural methods - have created food unsuitable of humans in the short term. We are the guinea pig generation. Some of us will survive and carry on, knowing the evil nature of big food, big industry. Others have and will expire not knowing.

The world cannot sustain the current population level and current lifestyle. Obesity is an early death sentence, and a low reproduction cause. This will correct the population, reducing the percent of obese sensitive people. Oh well. Not looking at reality may make you feel better, but will not help the problem in your generation.

There are many foods that are not fit for Fred foods. Some of it is hog food, some makes good concrete retarder, wood finishing oils, wonderful tasting poisons, industrial products sold as food, to the untrained wild humans. I can live here, among the wild humans, but not part of the "no food knowledge group", and avoid obesity, but be in the overweight group due to doing physical work. Most wild humans life in a blissful state of precontemplation (Stages of Change, C.C. Diclemente) oblivious to the real obesity problem.

Some of us have looked at the problem, figured out some of the causes of overeating, and are in some form of partial recovery. It is yet not clear what a modern human should look like and do; the range of choice is too wide, creating too much disparity. This will lead to more unrest.

But what do I know?

Fred

Surrender

 Surrender means becoming willing to follow directions.

I am not controlling, I am just following directions. Am I willing to follow directions yet? 

confident vs asshole

 cut from
http://weightmaven.org/2014/05/05/quote-of-the-day-221

One of the first things people usually ask me is, “Gabourey, how are you so confident?” I hate that. I always wonder if that’s the first thing they ask Rihanna when they meet her. “RiRi! How are you so confident?” Nope. No. No. But me? They ask me with that same incredulous disbelief every single time. “You seem so confident! How is that?” …
What I would say, is my mom moved my brother and I to my aunt’s house. Her name is Dorothy Pitman Hughes, she is a feminist, an activist, and a lifelong friend of Gloria Steinem. Every day, I had to get up and go to school where everyone made fun of me, and I had to go home to where everyone made fun of me. Every day was hard to get going, no matter which direction I went. And on my way out of the house, I found strength. In the morning on the way out to the world, I passed by a portrait of my aunt and Gloria together. Side by side they stood, one with long beautiful hair and one with the most beautiful, round, Afro hair I had ever seen, both with their fists held high in the air. Powerful. Confident. And every day as I would leave the house… I would give that photo a fist right back. And I’d march off into battle. …
“How are you so confident?” “I’m an asshole!” Okay? It’s my good time, and my good life, despite what you think of me. I live my life, because I dare. I dare to show up when everyone else might hide their faces and hide their bodies in shame. I show up because I’m an asshole, and I want to have a good time. And my mother and my father love me. … So when you ask me how I’m so confident, I know what you’re really asking me: how could someone like me be confident? Go ask Rihanna, asshole!

So where is the line between confidence and a bit sociopathic? Is it a bit of not caring about others that allows confidence? Is that why so many business people, salesmen, and the like are such a bunch of sociopaths? 

What?

The problem arises when the could do or should do does not aline with the wanta do, or there is no wanta do.

A psychic change, sufficient ..... BB ed3 pg 569

A change in our thinking sufficient to bring about complete and lasting recovery...

must include a decision, and foundation for all future decisions regarding life and food...

must include letting go of desires....

must include managing our impulses and motivations...

must consider hyperpalatible editables as not food ...

must flatten unconscious habits...

must include a busy balanced life with lots of activities we enjoy.