Tuesday, April 7, 2015

Too Challenging

Some discussions are just too challenging to continue. How does one prove a philosophy that works is true?


There is no doubt that you are right on this one, prevention is a long way off, and may never be practical. That would require everyone understanding the causes, all the causes and contributing factors. Some of the problem is cultural, and how do we deal with that?

So Fred, I'm not convinced that culture is part of the problem. That's one of the problems about us all discussing this issue is we don't have common ground on things like this.

I operate under the assumption that, like OCD, eating disorder symptoms certainly reflect the culture but aren't caused by the culture. What is your belief?

It is my opinion that the cause is a chain of reasons, no specific order. Some of that chain is species specific or genetic, or likely epicgenetic, some is our philosophy, learned from our culture, society, religion, environment, and some is chemical induced from the foods, minerals, vitamins, we intake or the lack thereof. Philosophy includes our ability to withstand what we perceive as anxiety, boredom, stress, emotions, abuse, etc. Much of this is learned from the culture we live in, including the times. We have no control of this. All we can effect is what we have control or influence over.

Remove any link in the "chain" and the problem goes away. We cannot control only our environment close enough to remove the problem. We need to adapt to our environment, which is where self change or client change become important, and that is all that is practical. There are overlay philosophies that can remove these problems, but we need to be able and willing to learn and practice these philosophies. We need to give up the old personality. We take on a new personality. That is a tall order. It is the collection of personalities around us that makes up culture, along with environment in the widest sense. 

What you describe could be true. I don't know. I don't know of evidence that supports this etiology. So what do we do to come together on "prevention" when we don't agree on causation?
The partial list of "causes" is long, and builds up over time. Each partial cause is not enough on it's own to be a problem, but they build up, or pile up on each other to the point that there is a problem. How do we prove that? I am not about to try. To me, it is obvious. Food knowledge is necessary and not sufficient. Food addiction can happen. High glucose is a relaxant and as such is addictive. Eating disorders, compulsions, food cravings, overeating... all exist. Emotions can drive overeating I know from observing behaviors. Some people overeat out of habit. The list goes on. What is the point of struggling to show the way? I will just mind my own business and do my thing with the stoic overlay concepts.

And just because
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PS, April 13, 2015

And then there are times that a blog is just so wrong by holding onto the old myths. We do what we do, and in a few years we all will be gone, and in a few years after that, all that remember us will also be gone.


1 comment:

FredT said...

I am wondering if much of the problem does not come down to conflict between personalities, and the child dependent and trapped against a control freak, perfectionist, "you will achieve" or demanding personality?