There are people in these rooms that want to maintain there obesogenic attitude, keep on eating and also want recovery. They are none of my concern. The stoics give a way of removing fear, resentment, and control issues. Just complete removal, gone. Why not use them, the softer, easier way?
All we need do is to understand the only thing I, we, have control over is our will, and then it is some days iffy. All else is beyond our control, and just is as it is. Our impressions are the point of separation. Mental objects can be controlled. That which is beyond my control is of no concern. It just is.